Budget Hearing Meeting – CSU Extension, September 29, 2026

Main Subject

The primary focus of the September 29, 2026 CSU Extension budget hearing was that this is a small county office — about $88,000 on Vernon Roth’s six-year sheet — not the $400,000 countywide hole, and that it stays small only if local grants keep paying for programming, a $4,000 vacancy refill and a mid-year CSU director bump are printed as county-versus-CSU shares, phones jumping $900 to $3,400 are billed as compliance instead of IT hiding, and overtime for overnight youth events is put back on the sheet instead of treated as volunteer time.

Summary

This was the CSU Extension budget hearing on September 29, 2026. Finance director Vernon Roth walked a six-year sheet with CSU Extension staff in the room. Names used were Burnham, Ashton, and Emily. Katlyn Wommack handles the county vehicle calendar. Mon’nique was the payroll source for overtime. No roll-call votes. No public comment. This is not a countywide software hearing and it is not the $400,000 shortfall hearing. It is the local Extension office plus a few countywide bills that walked through the room and do not belong on this office alone. There are two money piles here. The first is the county’s Extension office. Vernon put that local share near $88,000. The second is countywide bookkeeping: a general-fund balance problem of about $400,000, benefits at 33 cents on the dollar, and workers’ comp of $160,000–$180,000 a year that used to ride a mill and the general fund and is now being pushed onto departments. Those last numbers are not an Extension spending binge. Mixing them is how an $88,000 office starts to look like a six-figure problem. The office itself is trying to finish under again. Staff said they have done that the last two years because local grants offset programming. One grant is already in hand for next year. Others will be chased for programming and youth development. A programming line was left at zero by mistake and should be about $12,000. Last year that line was budgeted at $13,000 and actually spent $8,291. This year they expect $11,000–$12,000. Working direction: drop programming to $6,000 on the county sheet and let grants cover the rest. Youth development sits at $12,000. Two thousand dollars that moved from programming into education and training did not post correctly. Education and training went up because Ashton and new program work need it. Payroll is a separate story, and the captions on director pay drop zeros, so treat those figures as the numbers walked in the room, not as a settled split between CSU and the county. A vacancy had to be refilled at a higher rate, about $4,000 over the current-year salary budget. Director compensation sits on CSU’s fiscal year, July 1 to June 30, so any increase hits mid-year on the county calendar. The room walked a current-year run rate near $170,085 against a budget figure in the $163,000 range, and a next-year working number near $175,000–$179,000. They said the director can still finish under if grants keep landing. Until CSU’s share and the county’s share are printed on one page, that $175,000–$179,000 line should not be read as all general-fund cash. Benefits and insurance are a third story. Insurance waits on open enrollment after the budget is set, so the benefits cell is an estimate. The load used in the room was 33 cents on every salary dollar. Workers’ comp is $160,000–$180,000 countywide and is being allocated by department for the first time. Extension should see its slice, not the whole county bill. The small operating lines moved in both directions. Communication went from about $900 to $3,400 because two cell phones ($960) and IT services now sit here. Phones have to be Samsung. The county tracks texts for compliance. iPhones were a problem. The director wants one system so work and personal phones do not mix. Fuel is under-spent. Mileage reimbursement is the expensive habit. A county vehicle, scheduled through Katlyn, is cheaper. Fuel could come down $500, or stay put because gas is high and operating supplies already dropped to $1,000. Travel and dues sit at $2,000. One thousand could come off except two people have to hit the annual CSU conference next year. Overtime was left off the sheet and has to go back on. Fair prep, the July state conference, and November camps put staff overnight with kids. That time is not volunteered. Pull current-year overtime from Mon’nique and add the line. No motion closed the office total, the director number, the phone bill, or overtime.

Key Points

Meeting

  • CSU Extension budget hearing, September 29, 2026.
  • Finance: Vernon Roth on a six-year sheet.
  • Admin: Katlyn Wommack (county vehicle calendar).
  • Extension names in the room: Burnham, Ashton, Emily.
  • Payroll source for overtime: Mon’nique.
  • No roll-call votes. No public comment.

Two piles — do not mash them

  • County Extension office on Vernon’s sheet: about $88,000.
  • Countywide context walked through the room, not an Extension overrun:
    • About $400,000 still to balance on the larger budget.
    • Benefits load: about 33 cents on every salary dollar.
    • Workers’ comp countywide: $160,000–$180,000 a year, now being allocated by department.
  • Mixing those piles is how an $88,000 office looks like a six-figure problem.

Office target: finish under, again

  • Last two years finished under because local grants offset programming.
  • One grant confirmed for next year.
  • More grants to be sought for programming and youth development.
  • Programming line was left at $0 by mistake. Should be about $12,000.
  • Last year: budgeted $13,000, spent $8,291.
  • This year expected: $11,000–$12,000.
  • Working county programming number: $6,000, with grants covering the rest.
  • Youth development: $12,000.
  • $2,000 moved from programming to education and training did not post correctly.
  • Education and training up for Ashton and new program work.

Payroll — vacancy vs. director vs. CSU year

  • Vacancy refilled at a higher rate. About $4,000 over the current-year salary budget.
  • Director pay sits on CSU’s July–June fiscal year.
  • Any director increase hits the county mid-year, not January 1.
  • Current-year run rate discussed near $170,085 against a budget figure in the $163,000 range.
  • Next-year working number discussed near $175,000–$179,000.
  • Auto-captions drop zeros on this line. Treat it as discussed, not as a certified split.
  • Room said the director can still finish under if grants land.
  • CSU share vs. county share was not printed on one page.

Benefits and comp

  • Insurance waits on open enrollment after the budget is set.
  • Benefits load used in the room: 33 cents on the dollar.
  • Workers’ comp $160,000–$180,000 is countywide.
  • New policy: allocate workers’ comp by department.
  • Extension should carry its slice, not the whole county bill.

Small operating lines

  • Communication: about $900 → $3,400.
  • Two cell phones: $960. Rest is IT.
  • Phones must be Samsung. County tracks texts for compliance.
  • iPhones failed that test.
  • One work system. No mix of personal and county phones.
  • Fuel under-spent.
  • County vehicle, booked through Katlyn, is cheaper than mileage reimbursement.
  • Possible fuel cut: $500. Or leave it because gas is high.
  • Operating supplies: $1,000.
  • Travel / dues: $2,000.
  • $1,000 could come off travel except two people go to the annual CSU conference.

Overtime

  • Not on the sheet. Has to go back on.
  • Triggers: fair prep, July state conference, November camps.
  • Overnight with kids is paid. It is not volunteered.
  • Pull current-year actuals from Mon’nique and add the line.

What was not decided

  • No motion on the $88,000 office total.
  • No motion on director pay at $175,000–$179,000.
  • No motion printing CSU vs. county salary shares.
  • No motion on the overtime dollar amount.
  • No motion on cutting travel $1,000 or fuel $500.
  • Next steps named: post the $12,000 programming correction, add overtime from payroll, keep chasing grants, show this office its workers’ comp slice.

Summarized Transcription

Vernon put a six-year sheet on the table and a green bar for 2026. The Extension office sits near $88,000. Somewhere else in the building a $400,000 hole is still being balanced. That hole is not this office. Neither is $160,000 to $180,000 of workers’ comp.

Staff said they have finished under two years running because local grants pick up programming. One grant is already in. A programming line was left at zero by accident and should be $12,000. Last year they budgeted $13,000 and spent $8,291. This year they will spend $11,000 to $12,000. Working direction: put $6,000 of programming on the county and let grants do the rest. Youth development at $12,000. Two thousand dollars that moved into education and training never posted. Ashton needs the training line.

A vacancy came back more expensive. Four thousand dollars over the salary budget. Director pay lives on CSU’s July-to-June year, so the bump hits the county in the middle of the calendar. They walked a run rate near $170,085 against a budget around $163,000, and a next-year number near $175,000 to $179,000. Stay under anyway, they said, if the grants show up. Those director figures are what the room said. Captions drop zeros, and CSU’s share versus the county’s share was not printed. Do not read $179,000 as all general-fund cash until that page exists.

Benefits are 33 cents on the dollar. Insurance waits on open enrollment. Workers’ comp is a county problem now being billed by department. Show Extension its slice.

Phones went from $900 to $3,400. Two Samsungs at $960 plus IT. iPhones cannot hold the text-tracking rule. Fuel is light because a county vehicle, booked through Katlyn, beats mileage. Maybe cut $500. Maybe don’t, because gas is high and supplies already sit at $1,000. Travel is $2,000 and two people still have to make the CSU conference.

Overtime is missing. Fair prep. July state conference. November camps. Overnight with kids is not a volunteer shift. Ask Mon’nique for the real number and put it on the sheet.

No vote on the $88,000. No vote on director pay. No vote on overtime. The small office is trying to stay small. The countywide bills walking through the room are not Extension’s to carry alone.

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Associated Polls

Keep Extension programming on grants: Working number: $6,000 on the county sheet, $12,000 youth development, grants for the rest. Last year they spent $8,291 of a $13,000 programming budget. Support that mix?
Vacancy refill plus director mid-year bump: About $4,000 to refill a vacancy. Director pay on a CSU July–June year, working next-year number near $175,000–$179,000. Fair?
Phones $900 → $3,400: Two Samsungs ($960) plus IT. County says iPhones break text tracking. Worth it?
Overtime for overnight youth events: Fair prep, July state conference, November camps. Overnight with kids is not volunteered. Add the line?
Do not park countywide comp on Extension: Benefits at 33 cents on the dollar. Workers’ comp $160,000–$180,000 countywide, now being allocated by department. How should Extension see that?